Comments on: Change vs Transformation

By: solidgoldcreativity

solidgoldcreativity — Wed, 30 Mar 2011 02:01:24 +0000

hah, yes, Jerry meant your kind of ca-ca :) I’ll edit it tout de suite!

About your point 2 … mmm, both of these points apply I’d say. Transformation as individuals, and our coming into being through relationship. There’s a distinction you haven’t yet got which comes in the Advanced Course and that’s “self as other”. Right now, where you are, it’s all perfect; it’s exactly where you’re meant to be. And when you do the Advanced Course you’ll get more.

By: AE

AE — Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:47:47 +0000

More good stuff here – just got lost on a couple of issues …

1. “What is perfect, sound and sufficient has gotten covered up with “ka ka” ” Should this have been ka ka (seemingly an adjective) or ca-ca (a familiar term from my french childhood). My personal experience is the latter would be more appropriate, ca-ca being a cute synonym for the inauthenticity which is sadly ubiquitous

2. “self-help is about an individual, while Landmark is about relationship, and it’s only in relationship we come into being.” Don’t we really have to transform ourselves as individuals before we can transform our relationships? Think I need to read this a little bit further to properly understand this distinction

AE xx

By: solidgoldcreativity

solidgoldcreativity — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:03:20 +0000

Hi Nerida. Well, what a coincidence you should be a Landmark graduate too. Thought you had a twinkle in your eye.

By: nerida

nerida — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:38:38 +0000

Hi there graduates ,
Avoiding the responsibility of cleaning up by interneting and there it is responsibility in my face and the reminder of Landmark being in the present taking reponsibility just for one’s self and actions and wow transformation does happen

Just want to sayto Philip Landmark honours EST graduates and you can repeat The Landmark Forum at a reduced rate . Do it, it is the same, much more considerate and yet completely different. I’ve done the series and coaching on SELP assisted on various events and courses and some extra day programs

By: solidgoldcreativity

solidgoldcreativity — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:59:08 +0000

Hi Phillip. Thanks for the great comment. The Landmark Forum is a successor to est. The taking responsibility is a big one, isn’t it? I need to re-learn that every day. Had a laugh at the afterglow effect. Very familiar. Now I do some assisting every few weeks to keep in practice or I re-start sharing with others (every time i go back to basket-case end of spectrum, it’s because I’ve stopped communicating).

By: Phillip S Phogg

Phillip S Phogg — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:02:43 +0000

I heard somewhere that the Landmark Forum was a successor to est. Is this true?

Whatever. I did est nearly thirty years ago, and the most important thing I learned from it was being responsible for one’s emotions, rather than being at the effect of them. Thus if one is angry or jealous, then be so, but manage the anger or jealousy responsibly, ie in an adult way.

Transformation was also a big thing with est. It had to do with problems or issues clearing up (and thus disappearing) by looking at them (or holding them) differently (holding them in a different context). Thus transformation.

I found, though, that after the few weeks of afterglow from the est training, I went back to being the emotional basket-case I’d always been. I noticed the same dynamic with others too, who had done est.

Transformation isn’t easy, I’ve found!!