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		<title>By: solidgoldcreativity</title>
		<link>http://solidgoldcreativity.com/2010/01/14/the-just-enough-rule-of-writing/#comment-569</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, but what are 2 or 3 examples you&#039;ve read recently that showcase fine writing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, but what are 2 or 3 examples you&#8217;ve read recently that showcase fine writing?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://solidgoldcreativity.com/2010/01/14/the-just-enough-rule-of-writing/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, seeing that there is now the internet, you can simply go to the websites of the publications I mentioned!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, seeing that there is now the internet, you can simply go to the websites of the publications I mentioned!!!</p>
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		<title>By: solidgoldcreativity</title>
		<link>http://solidgoldcreativity.com/2010/01/14/the-just-enough-rule-of-writing/#comment-567</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to get some directions from you to some great pieces. Not because I don&#039;t believe there are US newspapers and magazines that contain the finest of writing, but because I need some nourishment. Sgx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to get some directions from you to some great pieces. Not because I don&#8217;t believe there are US newspapers and magazines that contain the finest of writing, but because I need some nourishment. Sgx</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the interests of &quot;balance&quot;, allow me to point out that there are US newspapers and magazines which consistently contain the finest of writing eg The NY Times (despite Kinsley&#039;s critique), the New Yorker Magazine, the Atlantic, Harpers, Slate.com (web only, which Kinsley once was the editor of), the New York Review of Books, and many others.  

As with journalistic writing, as with all the other areas of human endeavour, the US provides the best of all worlds, and the worst of all worlds. 

It&#039;s the middle ground which all too often is missing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interests of &#8220;balance&#8221;, allow me to point out that there are US newspapers and magazines which consistently contain the finest of writing eg The NY Times (despite Kinsley&#8217;s critique), the New Yorker Magazine, the Atlantic, Harpers, Slate.com (web only, which Kinsley once was the editor of), the New York Review of Books, and many others.  </p>
<p>As with journalistic writing, as with all the other areas of human endeavour, the US provides the best of all worlds, and the worst of all worlds. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the middle ground which all too often is missing.</p>
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		<title>By: andreaskluth</title>
		<link>http://solidgoldcreativity.com/2010/01/14/the-just-enough-rule-of-writing/#comment-565</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear, hear. 

As you&#039;d expect, I&#039;m backing you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear. </p>
<p>As you&#8217;d expect, I&#8217;m backing you.</p>
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		<title>By: solidgoldcreativity</title>
		<link>http://solidgoldcreativity.com/2010/01/14/the-just-enough-rule-of-writing/#comment-564</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he he, funny how it&#039;s always the immoralists who cite morality, isn&#039;t it? mmm, maybe I&#039;d better go check my own bedroom ... :)

I guess I don&#039;t see the issue as a nationally-determined one, or if it is, it&#039;s because we&#039;re all becoming one big amorphous USA-lite land; because all the things I talked about occur in Australian magazines and newspapers too. I just see it as an issue of poor writing.

&lt;em&gt;... much newspaper writing is deliberately written to the level of readers having only a Grade 8 level education (15 year olds)&lt;/em&gt;

If only it were written to the level of most 15 year olds it might be worth reading.  Most 15 year olds are a hell of a lot smarter than some of the rubbish that&#039;s printed.  SGx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he he, funny how it&#8217;s always the immoralists who cite morality, isn&#8217;t it? mmm, maybe I&#8217;d better go check my own bedroom &#8230; :)</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t see the issue as a nationally-determined one, or if it is, it&#8217;s because we&#8217;re all becoming one big amorphous USA-lite land; because all the things I talked about occur in Australian magazines and newspapers too. I just see it as an issue of poor writing.</p>
<p><em>&#8230; much newspaper writing is deliberately written to the level of readers having only a Grade 8 level education (15 year olds)</em></p>
<p>If only it were written to the level of most 15 year olds it might be worth reading.  Most 15 year olds are a hell of a lot smarter than some of the rubbish that&#8217;s printed.  SGx</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting and provocative post.  

What you and Michael Kinsley (and Andreas) say about contemporary magazine and newspaper writing is spot on. However, you are critiquing &lt;i&gt;American&lt;/i&gt; newspaper and magazine writing, which, I suggest, comes out of American culture, which, in turn, is the product of America&#039;s unique history. 

How does current American magazine and newspaper writing compare with British, Australian, and Canadian? What are the differences (if any) and what are their causes? 

Perhaps we should simply look at the Englishes of America, Britain, Australia, and Canada as different languages in which are contained values appropriate for the society to which the particular English speaks. 

I don&#039;t know how it is in Australia, but in Canada much newspaper writing is deliberately written to the level of readers having only a Grade 8 level education (15 year olds). I feel sure it would be the same in the USA - which anglophone Canada so much resembles culturally.  

If you bear this in mind (as well as treating the English of America as a separate language stemming from a different culture) it might assuage your irritation when you read American newspapers and magazines. In est (or even Landmark) parlance, the problem will &quot;clear up&quot; as you look at it from another angle!!! 

Your statement that Raymond Carver &lt;i&gt;&quot;.........does a good line in the morality of writing: &#039;Fundamental accuracy of statement is the ONE sole morality of writing.&#039;&quot;&lt;/i&gt;. 

While Carver&#039;s minimalist style of writing may have given it a rigorous morality, his life was totally otherwise, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/books/review/King-t.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;particularly in what the women in his life had to put up with!!!&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting and provocative post.  </p>
<p>What you and Michael Kinsley (and Andreas) say about contemporary magazine and newspaper writing is spot on. However, you are critiquing <i>American</i> newspaper and magazine writing, which, I suggest, comes out of American culture, which, in turn, is the product of America&#8217;s unique history. </p>
<p>How does current American magazine and newspaper writing compare with British, Australian, and Canadian? What are the differences (if any) and what are their causes? </p>
<p>Perhaps we should simply look at the Englishes of America, Britain, Australia, and Canada as different languages in which are contained values appropriate for the society to which the particular English speaks. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how it is in Australia, but in Canada much newspaper writing is deliberately written to the level of readers having only a Grade 8 level education (15 year olds). I feel sure it would be the same in the USA &#8211; which anglophone Canada so much resembles culturally.  </p>
<p>If you bear this in mind (as well as treating the English of America as a separate language stemming from a different culture) it might assuage your irritation when you read American newspapers and magazines. In est (or even Landmark) parlance, the problem will &#8220;clear up&#8221; as you look at it from another angle!!! </p>
<p>Your statement that Raymond Carver <i>&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;does a good line in the morality of writing: &#8216;Fundamental accuracy of statement is the ONE sole morality of writing.&#8217;&#8221;</i>. </p>
<p>While Carver&#8217;s minimalist style of writing may have given it a rigorous morality, his life was totally otherwise, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/books/review/King-t.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">particularly in what the women in his life had to put up with!!!</a>.</p>
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