Live blog from the Money seminar

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The seminar leader puts the proposition, “Consider that you live inside a conversation that money solves problems.”

Like many Landmark propositions it sounds too simple at first. Then it unfurls.

I start thinking about problems I have and how money is being used in relation to them. It’s easy to list some problems. I’m surprised to see how I’m using money to relate to them. I see for example that when I feel lonely I go out and buy favourite foods. Then I get it’s a particular kind of food – food I need to bake in the oven – and that this gives me a sensation of comfort and nurturing. There are several problems relating to my business, and in each case I’m using money (or absence of money) to try to solve them.

It’s easy to see how friends are doing it. One friend regularly gives money to people in her life when they are moaning and complaining. She’s obviously trying to get some peace. Predictably, one of her regular complaints is that people take advantage of her, view her as a mummy figure.

The seminar leader says,

It’s a myth, an illusion, that money solves problems. When you get this, you can give up throwing money at problems.

I start to consider what would life be like if I viewed money and problems separately …

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21 thoughts on “Live blog from the Money seminar

  1. As one grows older, it becomes easier to separate the two. In my own case, most of my problems revolve around health, in which case money is of no help except to pay the doctors. Before the age of 60 all we think about is wealth,( and how to get it) after 60 we start to think about health.

    When I am going through a period of unwellness, I shrink into myself. No jewelry, I don’t really care what I look like, and I don’t feel like cooking or entertaining. It soon passes and the merry-g0-round starts up again.

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    • You describe so well what it’s like when we’re experiencing lack, lack of health, lack of money, lack of time, etc etc. Shrinking into ourselves, becoming small, assuming the mental foetal position. I call it going into my mousehole :)

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  2. If you need to solve a problem and lack the necessary skills, you may have to pay someone. Only when working for nothing becomes the norm will it be possible to dispense with money.

    Does the seminar leader take a fee for her skills?

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      • For what other purpose is money necessary than to solve particular problems?

        I should have made myself clearer on the subject of the seminar leader’s fee. I did not mean exclusively any fee she might be paid for the seminar, but for her skills generally and I suppose my question was somewhat rhetorical.

        After all, the labourer is worthy of her hire.

        Tell me to stop if I’m annoying you.

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      • You’re not annoying me. I appreciate that you’re engaging with me on the question.

        Your question is what I take to be the one of the central questions we’re meant to discover: what is money for? We got a glimpse of something beyond the money=solution paradigm when people were discussing giving away money in the second session. Everyone was excited and moved.

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      • One does not have to subscribe to Christian theology to recognise the impact of Jesus’ instruction to the rich man to sell all he had and give it to the poor, nor the parable of the talents, nor the lesson of the widow’s mite.

        It’s all very hard to put into practice, though.

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      • Luckily, the seminar is not about learning how to give away your money :) It’s about having freedom and power in one’s relationship to money. For that to be possible, one has to distinguish what it is one is dealing with, kind of like finding the edges of it so you can see it clearly.

        I invite you to come down out of the stands and get on the court. There are ways of seeing on the court that aren’t available in the stands. Consider your own life. Think of a problem or two and then start to look at how you’re using money (or its absence) in relation to the problem. Keep looking and you may start to see something new. x

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      • I am fortunate in that my wife controls all finance and spending in our household and solves all our problems. That way I can pretend I own nothing and have solved all my problems. ;)

        I shall, nevertheless, keep looking, as you suggest. Thank you.

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  3. Yes, we definitely have a relationship with money, and it’s useful to think about it. Our “hang ups” about money (spending, not spending, not talking about it, talking too much about it) can stop us from doing and being in all areas of our lives.

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  4. See… this is what I like about your blog, your going to a workshop on money and blogging into our response-ability! The comments are very interesting as well. As to me and money-no different than anyone except that I see money as one of several forms of currency I use. Original thinking is currency, “you” use that all the time, painting original work or writing or composing are also currency with no set denominations and time is currency. I find I abuse these other forms more than money because they are not as easily accounted for, yet have much greater value than money.
    This was a really good post to chew on.
    Thanks

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  5. Like so many ideas or assumptions: on the surface, they make perfect sense. Then you start to really examine them and it all falls apart. The falling apart is both disconcerting and liberating.

    Money is a band aid applied to the gaping wound. It may delay some of the bleeding but it won’t heal the wound and sure won’t fix the cause of the wound.

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